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Scott Douglas Jacobsen: Okay, so, what was the topic, belief systems or dating?
Rick Rosner: Dating. We’re talking about like before you started taping that you just completely made your apartment like a grownups apartment. Like you decorated it, you made it all nice.
Jacobsen: Yeah.
Rosner: I bet you it’s like everything’s neat in there. There are not clothes thrown all over the place.
Jacobsen: Correct. I have systems. I organized and updated everything. I turned this place around in three quarters of a year. I worked very fast.
Rosner: Nice, and you put a lot of thought and effort into it. And when I was somewhat younger than you, but not a lot younger than you, I put zero effort into anything except trying to get a girlfriend/get laid.
Jacobsen: So we are not the opposite. However, you’re more forced and I’m more sort of just natural about it.
Rosner: Yeah and I would argue that the era I was trying to get laid in, 70s and 80s, was itself kind of pathologically horny. You were expected to be horny and have sex whenever possible. It was a hedonistic era, and I was obsessed with hooking up. I would argue that your stance and most people’s stance is not to go crazy pushing it. It’ll happen when it makes sense to happen just in the fullness of time. I used the example of somebody I know who kind of hooked up in a way that I thought might have been desperate as a very young, unpromising man with somebody who turned out to not be right. Well, they turned out to not be right for each other and then later he became very successful and met people who were appropriate for him in the fucking fullness of time instead of jumping on the first sexual hand grenade.
Jacobsen: [Laughting].
Rosner: And then you said there’s a study in the New York Times.
Jacobsen: There was a report on a study in the New York Times. There have been many reports on many major publications about some of the largest data samples available in online dating. The types of people who are attracted will be a self selected sample in some way. In other ways, the sample is so large it might simply be representative of the general population. What they find in some of these analyses of the data provided by these online dating apps is women peak in terms of attractiveness at 18, to men. So this appears to be a heterosexual analysis. Men, in complete contradistinction to this seem to peak at about 50. So there is an asymmetry it’s on the one factor of age.
Rosner: Brutal asymmetry where 18 is the youngest age you can even look at, like, pornographic pictures. If women peak in attractiveness at age 18, then you assume that they’re still pretty attractive when they’re younger than 18, but you can’t even legally look at them when they’re younger than18, which is crazy in terms of what our sex drive does to us. Men focus are focused via our sexual evolutionary history on just pure reproductive fitness. And so any signs of age are signs that fitness is being lost. It seems like a socio biological argument that women look at men as providers or people who, in more general terms, as people who can take on the world. When we were on the Savannah, provider meant something entirely different but there was still the idea that somebody who’s made it into their older years that may be as a result of competence.
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American Television Writer
Scott Douglas Jacobsen
Founder, In-Sight Publishing
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