Scott Douglas Jacobsen: Let’s examine the concept of enshittification—a term popularized by Cory Doctorow and applied to recent technological developments, particularly social media platforms like Facebook, Twitter, and Google. These companies start by attracting a large user base with attractive deals and free services, burning through venture capital during their initial, money‐losing phase. They quickly amass millions, or even billions, of users, and their market value skyrockets. However, once shareholders and owners shift their focus toward profitability, these companies begin selling ads, charging for services, and generally squeezing users and employees. The quality of service often degrades over time, with Twitter serving as a prime example of this phenomenon.
Rick Rosner: This discussion leads us to consider a broader idea: the unification of consciousness and the reality that genuine thought is an expensive resource. Modern brain science suggests that the primary function of your brain is to predict what will happen next so that you can position yourself to maximize benefits and minimize risks. With a limited energy budget, your brain assembles thoughts that are half-formed best guesses. Moreover, your brain is not always an honest mediator; it sometimes manipulates your priorities and perceptions to favour survival and reproduction over objective reasoning. Even if AI may seem crude or “shitty” in its current information processing, it might eventually begin to approximate aspects of unconscious thought.
In summary, it is easy to overestimate AI’s sophistication—attributing it with true thought when merely processing information—and overestimate our mental abilities.
Can I ask: have you been tricked into overestimating the power of AI the way I have?
Jacobsen: I remain extremely skeptical. I listen to prominent AI figures—Eric Schmidt, Elon Musk, Sam Altman, Ray Kurzweil, Geoffrey Hinton, Andrew Ng, Andrej Karpathy, Daphne Koller, Ian Goodfellow, Jürgen Schmidhuber, Joy Buolamwini, Yoshua Bengio, Demis Hassabis, Fei-Fei Li, Yann LeCun, and so on. Their prominence doesn’t necessarily guarantee a correct opinion; it may indicate they’re more informed, though still fallible. Perhaps they’ll pick up on something I’m not considering.
If you ask it a simple math problem—say, “23 plus 17″—it might erroneously answer “8” instead of “40.” Even when you correct it, the mistake may persist. Essentially, you’re dealing with a system prone to constant confabulation, a tendency shaped by its training on vast and sometimes flawed human discourse. Left to its own devices, as human language evolves, its output could slowly diverge further from accurate human thought. Ultimately, it remains just a tool.
Rick Rosner is an accomplished television writer with credits on shows like Jimmy Kimmel Live!, Crank Yankers, and The Man Show. Over his career, he has earned multiple Writers Guild Award nominations—winning one—and an Emmy nomination. Rosner holds a broad academic background, graduating with the equivalent of eight majors. Based in Los Angeles, he continues to write and develop ideas while spending time with his wife, daughter, and two dogs.
Scott Douglas Jacobsen is the publisher of In-Sight Publishing (ISBN: 978-1-0692343) and Editor-in-Chief of In-Sight: Interviews (ISSN: 2369-6885). He writes for The Good Men Project, The Humanist, International Policy Digest (ISSN: 2332-9416), Basic Income Earth Network (UK Registered Charity 1177066), A Free Inquiry, and other media. He is a member in good standing of numerous media organizations.
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