In this conversation, Rick Rosner speaks with Scott Douglas Jacobsen about the kind of “information space” required for AI consciousness, arguing that large language models can represent simple concepts like “two” but lack lived correlates for emotions like love or devotion. They pivot to awards-season screenings, with Rosner reviewing Marty Supreme, Hamnet, and a Springsteen film while explaining opaque Emmy and Golden Globe voting systems and industry lobbying. The discussion closes on Judaism: holidays, Kabbalah’s mysticism, Golden-Rule ethics, and Rosner’s wish for a real, inclusive heaven to simplify humanity’s search for an afterlife.