Scott Douglas Jacobsen and Rick Rosner examine AI’s hype cycle and trajectory. Building on Cory Doctorow’s skepticism, they agree short-term disappointment is likely while acknowledging domains where machines surpass humans. They debate consolidation of AI firms, sunk costs, and the environmental and privacy externalities of massive compute. Rosner’s Packard analogy frames current systems as brute force; future efficiency may reshape economics or plateau. They contrast adoption with value, noting smoking and fads, and caution against simplistic energy comparisons. Chess wins and 20-watt brains illustrate capability versus cost. The pair end on emergence: human priorities are messy; AI may inherit them.