In this far-ranging dialogue, Scott Douglas Jacobsen and Rick Rosner dissect modern conspiracy culture, political disillusionment, and the strange overlap between intelligence and irrationality. From New York’s mayoral race to AI’s speculative bubble, Rosner muses on cognitive traps—from MAGA fanaticism to obsessive intellectual rabbit holes. They explore why some brilliant minds drift into delusion while others channel their focus into creative mastery. The conversation blends political realism, humor, and cognitive insight, concluding that lucidity—in writing and in thought—is the surest antidote to madness.