The Future of…3 – Food (Part 2)

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The Future of…3 – Food (Part 2)

Scott Douglas Jacobsen & Rick Rosner

May 17, 2017

[Beginning of recorded material]

Rosner: That stuff hasn’t been in US vaccines in a decade. And it’s… Even that has been proven not to cause Autism. And if there are prudent ways to deal with vaccinations. If you have a certain amount of fear of it, you just… If you’re worried about it, you still do the socially responsible thing, and you get your kid vaccinated, you just space out the vaccinations, so the kid doesn’t get three or four on the same day, and you’re doing the right thing, the prudent thing, for both your kid and for society.

And, you’ve taken a small measure of… Exercised a small measure of prudence if the lunatics are right. But yeah, there’s the anti-GMO people, genetically modified organism people, who think that anything that’s been genetically engineered is gonna kill you. But I buy the alternative argument which is that all the food we eat has been genetically engineered through centuries of human… Millennia of human breeding programs. Yeah, we couldn’t get in and directly tweak genes. But, we tweaked it… Endless tweaking…

Corn was this weird wheat-like stuff thousands of years ago, before we bred it into these fat ears of golden kernels. And a lot of food is like that, where it was fairly edible until we bred it into something that’s hyper-edible. And so, if you wanna be anti-GMO, don’t do it on scientific grounds, do it on the grounds that maybe companies like Monsanto have somewhat obnoxious business practices.

Jacobsen: I got two minutes.

Rosner: Okay. So, and then, yeah, there’s food snobbery. Like there’s… LA is full of lifestyle snobbery with yoga moms trying to outdo each other. And there’s fattery and I don’t know, that’s all I have on that.

Jacobsen: I mean, to me it just seems like, it seems to me like something corrosive of culture. It makes culture, in a way, less valuable because it’s less… It reduces the well-being of people in it.

Rosner: Well, it’s, Matt, because some of it goes back to information, where people can only absorb a certain amount of information about stuff. And people’s behavior towards food and lifestyle is to some extent influenced by information, and there’s a lot of information now. And a lot of the information is bullshit and people have to shop around for what… People don’t have to, but people will shop around for what fits their prejudices and fears.

So, anyway, everything is optimal strategies for dealing with food is it’s a probability cloud like a lot of other stuff where you can, trying to optimize stuff but you’re trying to aim at the center if you have the patience for it. Well, everything’s a function of people’s patience and prejudice, discipline and snobbery, and all this forms a cloud of, an end space of food-related behaviors, where some people are gonna be towards one end of the cloud in terms of hyper-disciplined behavior which encompasses hyper-discipline plus dumb-faddish or under-informed behavior like people who use homoeopathic medicine which is basically paying a lot of money for water.

Jacobsen: Okay.

Rosner: And then on the other end, there are people who, in the hyper-undisciplined end of things, the super resigned people or belligerently indulgent people, and I’m sure there are people who, at the lunatic end of conservatism, eat unhealthily as a gesture of defiance of the liberal dictators of what’s good for you. So, that’s it.

Jacobsen: Okay. Okay.

Rosner: Okay.

Jacobsen: I’ll leave you there and thanks for that.

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Rick Rosner

American Television Writer


Rick Rosner


Scott Douglas Jacobsen

Editor-in-Chief, In-Sight Publishing


In-Sight Publishing


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