Ask A Genius 173 – The ‘Real World’ (Part 3)

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Ask A Genius 173 – The ‘Real World’ (Part 3)

Scott Douglas Jacobsen & Rick Rosner

May 20, 2017

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Scott Douglas Jacobsen: These are flavors of the Empty Set. That’s one big thing. Also, the indefinitenes of elements in a set. 

Rick Rosner: What it leads to is if you can even do set theory if the members of the set are each multiplicitous and can take on all of these flavors, it applies to, say, if your universe contains one atom. And that atom according to the rules, it will probably be a Hydrogen atom.

it will be one proton and one electron, but that minimal universe of one atom is itself going to have whiffs of differences. That one thing in a set. That set of smallest possible universe doesn’t just have one element because that one element is itself subject to what you’re calling having “flavors.”

It is not entirely pinned down, and neither are the rules for defining it. The object is not completely defined, and the rules of confining it to a set are not completely defined. So everything is a little fuzzy, so you have to build increasing order out of these fuzzy constructs.

But since we live in this type of universe, a quantum mechanical universe, it is doable. So there should be some type of math that embraces nebulousness in a fairly systematic way. which quantum mechanics does.

But I don’t think anybody has really tried to apply quantum mechanics to set theory in this way. You have fuzzy sets. I don’t know if this is really. – I guess if you’re going to look for how to do it. Then that would be where you’d look first.

Where you’d have sets, or a set theory, where the objects in your sets can take a variety of values according to a probability distribution. So I don’t know. Anyway.

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Rick Rosner

American Television Writer


Rick Rosner


Scott Douglas Jacobsen

Editor-in-Chief, In-Sight Publishing


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