Cognitive Thrift 23 – Hate

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Cognitive Thrift 23 – Hate

Scott Douglas Jacobsen & Rick Rosner

June 2, 2017

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Scott Douglas Jacobsen: Some innate aspects of human hardware and wetware, as it’s sometimes called, has to do with what you pointed out before such as boobs, butts, and even rich lips. Other aspects are more positive such as greater intelligence, which seems like a driver. Something that I want to go into is violence. Something that has been very consistent throughout our history, whether as individuals, as groups, or as societies, and now as we’re seeing in the international community, at least in the 20th century. Basically, war and violence towards one another in various way seem like rationalizations for hate. This seems very dysfunctional at this point in history. What are your thoughts on it?

Rick Rosner: I got to defend violence to some extent because in some instances it works. Sometimes taking stuff by force works to the advantage of the person if they can get away with it, but in a more general sense. We’re still the primates we were 100,000 years ago with the brains from 100,000 years ago.

We are able to do more sophisticated things than 100,000 years ago because we developed a culture and we’re surrounded by technology and we have ways of communicating and we have theories and understandings of things that work well with our brain’s ability to process symbolic information.

Our ability to process symbolic information has served us well and will continue to serve us well as we begin to climb, rapidly now, climb rapidly to higher and higher levels of sophistication because if anything can be broken down into symbols we can generally understand those symbols, and so our brains are adequate.

But we still have the, as you said, hardwiring of primates, and as we understand more and more about our brains we will be able to rejigger the wiring, which is something that we’ve been able to do up to now in history. We’ll have the increasing ability to decide that our drives are as opposed to our evolutionary heritage to some extent deciding what our drives are.

We will be able to turn down sex drive if that’s convenient for us, or re-direct drives in directions that individuals find more productive. We’ll be able to tone down violent impulses if that makes or serves a utilitarian purpose, if it makes things better for everyone in general.

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Rick Rosner

American Television Writer


Rick Rosner


Scott Douglas Jacobsen

Editor-in-Chief, In-Sight Publishing


In-Sight Publishing


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