Ask A Genius 293 – Universal Basic Income (3)

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Ask A Genius 293 – Universal Basic Income (3)

September 17, 2017

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Rick Rosner: I consider the Trump-Clinton election like the first AI election; first election where automation and computerization and robots really helps determine the lot of the issues. We’re behind a lot of the issues in the elections where each side is kind of promising something for the people who have lost their jobs due to the disappearance of traditional industrial jobs in America. And it comes in the Trump… we’re going to bring back coal, we’re going to bring factories back, Hillary to a certain extent as we’re going to train everybody for new modern jobs. Nobody got anything to gain by saying this thing. It would take a really crazy politician to say, “In terms of some areas of employment, we’re just fucked because robots are cheaper”.

Scott Douglas Jacobsen: When we look at like China has .36 robots per 100 workers, global average is .66 robots for 100 workers, United States has 1.64 robots per 100 workers, Germany has 2.92, Japan 3.4 per 100, Korea has 4.78 robots per 100 workers which is substantial.

Rosner: That’s a little deceptive, all those stats and how many workers does each of those robots replace? You’ve got robot productivity versus human productivity. There might be 20 in Korea there may be 25 workers or so for every robot, but if every robot is on average doing a job that previously required three people then the ratio goes from four robots per 100 to 12 human equivalent jobs per 100 people still working in jobs.

Jacobsen: Yes, and people’s jobs had become more casual.

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Rick Rosner

American Television Writer


Rick Rosner

Scott Douglas Jacobsen

Editor-in-Chief, In-Sight Publishing


In-Sight Publishing


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