Born to Do Math 185 – Mathematicization of Consciousness

In-Sight Publishing

Born to Do Math 185 – Mathematicization of Consciousness

September 15, 2020

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Scott Douglas Jacobsen: What is meant by mathematicization of consciousness in IC?

Rick Rosner: For a very persuasive theory of consciousness to exist, we would have to show what an information world looks like. We hypothesize it would have the physics of the world that we live in. We’d have to show the information in consciousness moment-to-moment and in memory, able to be brought up, how all that can be represented by a physical structure – call it a universe – with rules – call that physics, and how everything you know is part of it.

I have this clock radio and telephone in one in the home. It has rounded corners and a green LED display and has shading because it is sitting under a light. It looks like an actual thing in the world. A mathematical theory of consciousness would have to show how that information exists within a structure that incorporates my perception of this phone clock radio, and the rest of the room that I am in, and how it is embodied. Until recently, we were thinking information is more “holographic.” I don’t like it, the term – ugh.

Jacobsen: How about globally distributed and locally represented?

Rosner: Yes. I am not sure even know about that. It is globally distributed and able to be manipulated, so that it can be an object within my perception and imagination, or within my consciousness.

Jacobsen: It is like saying, “Everywhere and nowhere.” Does it really say anything? How can this be stated more precisely?

Rosner: Because you have to link the information and how this device, this phone deal, is represented in the information world, which probably includes the roughly global sharing of information via long-distance photons.

Jacobsen: There should numbers, symbols, and equations behind that.

Rosner: Yes, the whole deal.

Jacobsen: Then this would be the mathematicization of consciousness.

Rosner: Yes.

Jacobsen: We talked bluntly about traditional religion. What does this mean for spirituality?

Rosner: In the US, spirituality has been entirely fucked over by Evangelicals. As a liberal American offering any respect to religion at this point seems stupid because religion has been turned into this fantastically corrupt deal in America, this shouldn’t reflect on spirituality because this should be a different thing. Religion in America are real crap right now.

Jacobsen: How many people are part of these movements now?

Rosner: I don’t know. Maybe, it’s tens of millions.

Jacobsen: Okay.

Rosner: So, that’s thing one. My patience with religion, right now, is low. Thing two is, science is supplanting religion. Where I don’t think anybody expected this at the beginning of the scientific revolution, including scientists, the work of science to explain everything to every corner of the world. At this point, 500 years later, it looks like science can explain everything in the world. It is not to say we have explained everything or science can explain some metaphysical assumptions, such as the set of all possible worlds that have principles that can connect to ‘spiritual goods’ or properties that are good under ‘spirituality.’

From those things, you can extrapolate ethics. A sloppy half-assed understanding of the scientific world puts a premium on things happening without anyone in charge, but a more nuanced view of the scientific version of the world says, “It’s not random. Order emerges. Persistence persists. Under these principles, there is room for ethics and goodness, and a whole bunch of things, which are spiritually preferred. Even though, we are in a heartless and leaderless universe.”

Jacobsen: I like the phrase, “There are no governors anywhere.”

Rosner: I agree, but there are principles – not in charge – that describe what structures and entities persist and exist in the universe. Those entities are generated by order producing processes.

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Rick Rosner

American Television Writer


(Updated July 25, 2019)

*High range testing (HRT) should be taken with honest skepticism grounded in the limited empirical development of the field at present, even in spite of honest and sincere efforts. If a higher general intelligence score, then the greater the variability in, and margin of error in, the general intelligence scores because of the greater rarity in the population.*

According to some semi-reputable sources gathered in a listing hereRick G. Rosner may have among America’s, North America’s, and the world’s highest measured IQs at or above 190 (S.D. 15)/196 (S.D. 16) based on several high range test performances created by Christopher HardingJason BettsPaul Cooijmans, and Ronald Hoeflin. He earned 12 years of college credit in less than a year and graduated with the equivalent of 8 majors. He has received 8 Writers Guild Awards and Emmy nominations, and was titled 2013 North American Genius of the Year by The World Genius Directory with the main “Genius” listing here.

He has written for Remote ControlCrank YankersThe Man ShowThe EmmysThe Grammys, and Jimmy Kimmel Live!. He worked as a bouncer, a nude art model, a roller-skating waiter, and a stripper. In a television commercialDomino’s Pizza named him the “World’s Smartest Man.” The commercial was taken off the air after Subway sandwiches issued a cease-and-desist. He was named “Best Bouncer” in the Denver Area, Colorado, by Westwood Magazine.

Rosner spent much of the late Disco Era as an undercover high school student. In addition, he spent 25 years as a bar bouncer and American fake ID-catcher, and 25+ years as a stripper, and nearly 30 years as a writer for more than 2,500 hours of network television. Errol Morris featured Rosner in the interview series entitled First Person, where some of this history was covered by Morris. He came in second, or lost, on Jeopardy!, sued Who Wants to Be a Millionaire? over a flawed question and lost the lawsuit. He won one game and lost one game on Are You Smarter Than a Drunk Person? (He was drunk). Finally, he spent 37+ years working on a time-invariant variation of the Big Bang Theory.

Currently, Rosner sits tweeting in a bathrobe (winter) or a towel (summer). He lives in Los AngelesCalifornia with his wife, dog, and goldfish. He and his wife have a daughter. You can send him money or questions at LanceVersusRick@Gmail.Com, or a direct message via Twitter, or find him on LinkedIn, or see him on YouTube.

Scott Douglas Jacobsen

Founder, In-Sight Publishing


In-Sight Publishing


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